Re: "Re: FVWM: focus and pointer"

From: Brady Montz <bradym_at_cs.arizona.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:41:40 -0700 (MST)

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> From grossjoh_at_dusty.informatik.uni-dortmund.de Fri Apr 19 03:34:03 1996
> Sender: grossjoh_at_dusty.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
> To: Brady Montz <bradym_at_cs.arizona.edu>
>
> Brady> Try FvwmIconMan. Comes with 2.0.42 now. I modeled it on the
> Brady> twm icon manager.
>
> I have 2.0.42. I use FvwmIconMan. While I like it a lot, there's one
> behavior that it doesn't have: When you put the mouse pointer in the
> IconMan, on any specific window, that window doesn't have focus. With
> *twm window managers you can tell it that if the mouse pointer is on a
> window in the icon manager that window gets focus.
>
> To reiterate Eli's problem. AFAIK, there is NO WAY in fvwm to get all
> of the following simultaneously:
> - FocusFollowsMouse
> - Binding something to a key to Focus a window _without moving the
> mouse away from where it was when the key was pressed_.
>
> Maybe we should introduce into Fvwm a distinction between Focus (only
> change focus, do no move mouse pointer at all) and Warp (move the
> mouse pointer into a window, optionally giving that window focus, too).
>

Let me try to rephrase the points I have poorly made:

1. I dearly wish that fvwm would decouple focus and warping.
2. I know at least three people, including myself, who have written patches
   to fvwm to do this.
3. If you use my patch, which is included with FvwmIconMan, you get the
   exact icon manager behavior it seems that you want. On the setup I use,
   windows having focus are displayed differently in the manager, and by
   moving my cursor around in the manager, I can change the focus of the
   managed windows. No warping or raising. In addition, you could use my patch
   and not use my icon manager at all. No biggie.

Three additional points:

4. I really don't like keeping this patch up to date.
5. I would like to discuss with somebody who understands the internals of fvwm
   better that I how important this restriction that only windows on the
   current desk can have focus. I get the impression that we have about 5
   people here who are waiting for somebody else to do this. Let's write
   ourselves some code.
6. I don't want Chuck Hines to get the impression that I am harping on him.
   The guy does have a job after all, in addition to trying to keep all
   of us happy.

bradym_at_cs.arizona.edu
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