Re: FVWM: FVWMButtons

From: Tim Hanson <tjhanson_at_attbi.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:33:43 -0700

That did the trick. The SuSE staff put that in long ago (I've been slowly
tweaking this same .fvwm2rc for a few years now). Thanks.

Floyd Davidson wrote:
> Tim Hanson <tjhanson_at_attbi.com> wrote:
>
>>>On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 10:52:15PM -0700, Tim Hanson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I switched to SuSE 8.0 a while back, on a number of computers. For some reason
>>>>I can't Swallow programs like xeyes and asclock anymore. Is there a fix?
>>>
>>*FvwmButtons (2x2 Frame 0 Swallow(UseOld) "FvwmPager" "Module FvwmPager 0 0")
>>*FvwmButtons (3x2 Swallow "xosview" `Exec xosview`)
>>*FvwmButtons - - Swallow "FvwmXeyes" Exec xeyes -name "FvwmXeyes" -geometry +0+0
>>-bg grey67 &
>
>
> FvwmButtons seems to be _very_ sensitive to a number of things,
> and the results are always odd. I'll use your xeyes command as
> an example and show how to trouble shoot this kind of problem.
> (This pretty much describes what I actually did, too.)
>
> First, look at the obvious differences in the command you using
> for that one and the commands for others that do work. Instead
> of the above, try this,
>
> *FvwmButtons (- - Swallow "FvwmXeyes" \
> Exec xeyes -name "FvwmXeyes" -geometry +0+0 -bg grey67 &)
>
> Opps, that doesn't work either. So lets cut it down to a bare
> minimum and see what happens,
>
> *FvwmButtons (- - Swallow "FvwmXeyes" Exec xeyes &)
>
> Hmmm... still won't work, so:
>
> *FvwmButtons (- - Swallow "FvwmXeyes" 'Exec xeyes &')
>
> It _still_ doesn't work! (This one is tricky, and not at
> all obvious.) Run xeyes from the command line and then run
> xwininfo on it. The first line of information is,
>
> xwininfo: Window id: 0xa00007 "xeyes"
>
> The problem is that FvmwButtons knows to grab this process by
> the window id name, and if it doesn't match... it doesn't work.
>
> *FvwmButtons (- - Swallow "xeyes" 'Exec xeyes &')
>
> Bingo, that one works! (It will also work if the "&" is removed
> too.) So then you can try putting your customizations back in.
> The first discovery is that there is no point in using the
> -geometry option, it's ignored anyway.
>
> I'm not sure what the -name option will do with your
> configuration. On mine it causes a name to be put in the title
> bar, which causes xeyes to not be swallowed correctly (but my
> overall configuration tells fvwm not to decorate xeyes, so it
> may be different for your config).
>
> Another odd point is that setting the background won't do
> anything unless the +shape option is also used.
>
> So that ends up with a line that looks like
>
> *FvwmButtons (- - Swallow "xeyes" 'Exec xeyes -bg grey67 +shape')
>
> You can apply the same process to the others and eventually get
> them to work too.
>
> 1) Start with the most basic command you can, just to get
> it to "work".
>
> A) Copy the syntax used in a functioning example.
>
> B) Determine the actual window name by running
> the program and invoking xwininfo.
>
> 2) Add other options such as framing, padding, and/or
>
> 3) Add other program options, such as -bg. This may
> need to be coordinated with 2) above.
>
> Note that when something causes a problem, it might have
> almost any manifestation, and generally it is exceedingly
> difficult to connect what happens to what might have caused
> it. Hence stick with making exactly one change at a time,
> using "killall FvwmButtons" to kill the module and then
> restarting it from within fvwm each time (you don't have to
> kill fvwm itself each time).
>


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