On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 02:39:00PM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> On 15 Sep 2001 13:06:49 +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:36:19AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
> > > Dominik Vogt wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > Gee, since we all hate windows and think that Alt-Tabbing sucks
> > > > anyway I guess nobody ever tested Alt-Tab emulation thorough
> > > > enough to notice its a bit inconvenient ;-)
> > > >
> > > > I have written a patch that adds the new option "ReverseOrder" to
> > > > the WindowList command. If you use it, the pointer will start
> > > > over the next list entry and hitting Alt-Tab repeatedly (releasing
> > > > the Alt in between) rotates through all the windows instead of
> > > > just switching back and forth between the last two.
> > >
> > > seems like a good idea but IMO the name is confusing (I don't even
> > > know why you have chosen it). Since it's new code, can you change it to
> > > something closer to what it does (StartAtSecond, HighlightSecondItem,
> > > MSWinComaptibilityMode or something...)
> >
> > I have given it this name because this is exactly what it does: it
> > reverses the order of the menu entries. Without this option, the
> > window list is ordered like this:
> >
> > Title
> > Window 1 (window with the focus)
> > Window 2 (window that had the focus before window 1)
> > Window 3 (window that had the focus before window 2)
> > ...
> > Window n (window that had the focus before window n-1)
> >
> > and with ReverseOrder:
> >
> > Title
> > Window n (window that had the focus before window n-1)
> > ...
> > Window 3 (window that had the focus before window 2)
> > Window 2 (window that had the focus before window 1)
> > Window 1 (window with the focus)
> >
> > The pointer alsways starts ofer the first menu entry.
>
> Dominik, do you think a new ReverseOrder option is useful in any real
> situation? It seems too unintuitive for me. And making it a default
> for Alt-Tab is more than questionable. At least the previous default
> (without ReverseOrder) was totally intuitive.
Actually, I found the old behaviour totally unintuitive and the
new one much better. Not that I care much about that, I only
thought it was closer to that M$ stuff.
> I think the original request was to preserve the correct window
> order, but start over the second menu entry.
The old behaviour looked backwards through the window list. You
could not walk through the list by pressing Alt-Tab repeatedly.
Instead, focus was toggled between the current window and the last
one that had the focus.
> I.e. with this new
> hypotetical option StartAtSecond the menu is:
>
> Title
> Window 1 (window with the focus)
> Window 2 (window that had the focus before window 1)
> Window 3 (window that had the focus before window 2)
> ...
> Window n (window that had the focus before window n-1)
>
> But the first Alt-Tab points to the Window 2, the next Tab press points
> to Window 3 and so on. This would mean enhancements to a menu code.
Yes. I find this very confusing because the order of windows gets
messed up each time I press Alt-Tab. The idea of the new code was
this: If I have some windows, then I can always switch from
window A to window B by pressing Alt-Tab, say, n times. It does
not matter if window C had the focus in between or D, E and F...
> I want to restore the previous default for Alt-Tab, without ReverseOrder.
In the end, I really don't care. Do whatever you think is the
most nice and intuitive Alt-Tab behaviour.
Bye
Dominik ^_^ ^_^
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Dominik Vogt, dominik.vogt_at_gmx.de
Reply-To: dominik.vogt_at_gmx.de
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Received on Sun Oct 14 2001 - 18:06:25 BST