On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 02:10:21AM -0700, Denis Perelyubskiy wrote:
> * Glen Lee Edwards <glen_at_fcwm.org> [10-Oct-01 01:56 -0700]:
> [...]
> >Cool. FVWM is definitely the best window manager. Some
> >may work better out of the box - the Windows style of
> >window manager where it does all the thinking for you and
> >all you do is click and point. But FVWM lets us do it
> >our way.
> [...]
>
> i like programs to do exactly what i like them to do, no
> matter if i have to spend 2 days configuring them, and i
> dont have a pretty gui, which makes me coffee, at the same
> time as it is trying to figure out what it is i would like
> to do.... (which is why i also like vim, mutt, slrn :)
>
> also, i am not sure if this observation has any basis, but
> somehow fvwm always seemed to be much faster then
> enlightenment, sawfish, kde, and the likes.
We have taken great pains to make the fvwm code fast, but with
the feature list growing and growing some things start to slow
down noticably. Moving windows is a fine example. With all that
paging and SnapAttraction stuff going on it is definitely slower
than on some other window managers. Also, the code drawing
complex window decorations could be much faster.
> i am sure, there are probably other small wm's out there,
> but I just like fvwm way too much to even try them (and now
> that it stops annoying transient windows from popping up in
> the 0,0 corner, i am in love....)
I've seen window managers that are no lager than 40k or so and
probably very fast.
> so, the thing that always bothered me is why people started
> new wm projects, as opposed to helping out with existing
> ones, like fvwm? i mean, i saw some "small, configurable,
> theme-able" wm's out there, but that's exactly what FVWM
> is... i wonder if that's because "they can do it better?"
> attitude seems to be pretty common in open source (and not
> open source) ? ... just seems so much more could've been
> accomplished if people who have the time to contribute used
> that time to enhance things that are there ...
Yes, it's a shame. I often take a look at other window managers
like enlightenment, kwm, blackbox, icewm or saawmill. They all
have some nifty features (e.g. the window decoration code in E or
some menu features in icewm), but when it comes down to usability
there is almost nothing you can configure to your likings.
Bye
Dominik ^_^ ^_^
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Dominik Vogt, dominik.vogt_at_gmx.de
Reply-To: dominik.vogt_at_gmx.de
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Received on Wed Oct 10 2001 - 11:21:54 BST