Re: FVWM: FvwmTaskBar and Desktops

From: Dominik Vogt <dominik.vogt_at_gmx.de>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 05:49:50 +0200

On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 05:14:01PM -0700, bvdpoel_at_kootenay.com wrote:
> Dominik Vogt wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 11:41:14AM -0700, Bob van der Poel wrote:
> > > Hi. Just converted over to 2.2 after using fvwm95 for a few years. I'm
> > > impressed by some of the neat options, etc.
> > >
> > > One thing I've not been able to figure out is this. Using the fvwm95
> > > task bar I set
> > >
> > > *FvwmTaskBarDeskOnly
> > >
> > > However, this doesn't appear to work with the fvwm2 taskbar. I copied
> > > the old fvwm95 taskbar module to my fvwm2 directory and this seems to be
> > > okay. But I don't like to use modules from one wm for another...
> > >
> > > Is there something I'm missing in the docs for the taskbar to get this
> > > to work?
> >
> > Yes, you're reading the wrong docs ;-) The fvwm2 taskbar simply doesn't
>
> Nope. Reading the right docs...and it isn't there. Just in my fvwm95rc
> file.
>
> > have this option. The fvwm95 taskbar has some features the fvwm2 version
> > doesn't have. Probabply because the taskbar is much more important in a
>
> Oh? I'm not sure. I use the task bar all the time (and have icons turned
> off). I like the clean background screen with xearth running. What I
> like is to have three or four pages all running separate xterms. Then,
> for development I just click the task bar to switch between editors,
> etc. Ummm, if you don't use a task bar, how do you do this? Surely
> bringing up the window list is much slower. And keeping all the windows
> on one page is just messy. I'm certainly not a windows guy, so that's
> not the reason I'm doing it this way....

First of all you assume that everybody makes extensive uas of the mouse.
I do 90% of the work with the keyboard. The one exception is changing
the focus and raising windows. I switch pages with Alt-Fn like Linux's
virtual consoles. On all but the first pages I have nearly screen filling
applications, so the mouse is almost always in the right window. If not
I have to move the mouse a bit (using SloppyFocus helps a lot) and definitely
less that if I'd move to the taskbar first. On the first page I run several
shells, an X console window and xemacs. Nothing I can't handle with a bit
of move-and-click. And if the window is obsured there's still my
FvwmIconMan in my FvwmButtons. Much smaller that a taskbar.

Anyway, I'm currently working on an easy solution to create sigle-key
shortcuts to all kinds of objects handled by a window manager (windows,
menus, functions). This should reduce mouse usage by another 80% or so.

> > Windoze clone. If anybody volunteers to merge the two taskbars I'll
> > happily put the new version into the fvwm sources.
>
> I will have a look at the differences between the two sources and see if
> I can make sense of anything....no promises. If someone else wants to do
> this, no problems.

Great! Most of the time the biggest problem of such things getting done
is not *who* will do it but *when*.

> I've been running the 95 taskbar for a few days and it appears to be
> find.

There have been some changes to fvwm's module interface for some
advanced feature of the fvwm95 taskbar. In the best case they simply
won't work with fvwm2.

Bye

Dominik ^_^

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