Re: FVWM: Re: Tcl, fvwm, etc.

From: Jose' Manuel Pereira <jmp_at_NOdigitais.ist.utl.pt>
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 00:41:58 +0100 (WEST)

"BM" == Brady Montz <bradym_at_cs.arizona.edu> writes:
  BM> Many people, including myself, will refuse to have anything to do with
  BM> perl. It's not wise to pick a language on so many people's blacklists.
  BM> Guile, while probably tecnically the most feasable, should probably be
  BM> set aside for the same reason.

Too late. scwm is based on it. I currently have installed one of the first
releases (0.4, I think) and it is impressively usable & stable.
(Then again, they started from fvwm-2.0.46...;-)

The authors did what people here are discussing once again:

- Junked the current "interpreter". According to fvwm-list, this is
  a_good_thing.

- Chose Guile (scheme) as the new supporting language. According to fvwm-list,
  this is _evil_, but only for religious reasons. ;-)

- Since guile isn't a finished product, every scwm'er has a different
  release/snapshot of it installed. Instead of being an obvious a_ha!
  show-stopper, this looks somehow irrelevant (I installed the old 1.2 guile
  release just for it. The developers use modern snapshots. 1.2 simply worked
  for all scwm versions till now).

- They have a quickly developing new wm. Fvwm stopped at 2.0.46. For good, as
  it seems. No hard feelings, Chuck...

  Just one example: the dreaded GSFR is already done. They didn't submit it to
  this list, allegedly because the C code is too different now for a patch to
  be any use to fvwm...

  Yes, the Great Style Flags Rewrite. Big deal, uh?

As for CPU/memory weight, didn't notice any difference (no stats done, didn't
bother) in a P133/32Mb/Linux.

Personally, I just keep using fvwm2. It does the job and I simply don't have
the time to rewrite the .rc again for another wm (although, using Greg Badros'
config, now written in scheme, looks strikingly similar to the one I picked up
for fvwm...)

Other reason is that my python "generic" module just keeps working and I
became too sentimentally attached to that code... ;-)

PS: My vote for other wm's:
-(E)nlightenment: colourful, core dumping memory hog (as of 0.13)
-Windowmaker: looks very nice, has session management (sort of), easy but
inflexible config. (by fvwm standards :-). Oh, and YAOCN (yet another original
config. language).
-twm: has session management (xsm)

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