An Thi-Nguyen Le wrote:
>
> [Alex Wallis - Sun, 25 Feb 2001 07:35:51 AM CST]
> > Other material required for the fvwm.themes.org site are some new themes
> > and screenshots. Please feel free to mail your favourite new theme or
> > screenshot to fvwm_at_themes.org, however all such submissions are subject
> > to approval of course.
>
> I usually like to work up my own fvwm 'themes'. Perhaps I shall port
> (at least the look parts) to fvwm-themes, but time is short at the moment
Please do! When you can find some time. :)
> and besides, I usually just mock up themes from Blackbox anyways. ^.^
> For some screenshots and such (of course, click on the thumbnails to
> see the full-sized shot), see
>
> http://srh1171.urh.uiuc.edu/~anle/fvwm/themes.html
>
> Pick-any-random-ones you want, if you want any.
I'll have a look through them and let you know what I decide to use.
Some nice efforts there.
>
> fvwm configurations, I've noticed, tend to be fairly individual. There's
> just too much flexibility; it's easier to work with something like, say,
> Blackbox or even AfterStep, where flexibility is much decreased. And
> fvwm has a dimension its own apart from most other window managers -- the
> Buttons, which are quite malleable. You can play infinite games with
> them.
>
> I've seen fvwm-themes and played around with it for a bit. It's coming
> along nicely. I'd have to excise some bits for Debian's menu system
> (which automatically does what your application menu does), fix the
> default root menu to point to Debian's, add fvwm-themes to the menu
> system... but apart from that, it's pretty nice.
There have been some recent discussions on the viability of adopting the
debian menu system into the fvwm-themes framework but the difficulties
appear daunting. Perhaps if you felt you have something to contribute
you may wish to join in. We don't have many debian developers or
bugtesters. (If any)
>
> > IMHO
> > The whole concept of desktop theming implies the user is willing to
> > download as many packages as required to achieve the appearance and
> > versatility that brings the desired result. In comparison to installing
> > elightenment on a stock standard unix system, fvwm-themes is a breeze
> > and far less dependent on other packages.
>
> Very true. But I don't like any of the wm-icons. ^.^ *And* I'm not an
> artist. And I think they're too limited. But then I don't think of icons
> as being part of a theme. Were I to use fvwm-themes on a constant basis,
> it would only be for the ease of installation of 'looks'. I wouldn't use
> the components or the feels normally. 'Looks' would, I imagine, be the
> most numerous component by far.
Again, participation is a guaranteed way of improving things you
dislike. ;-P
>
> > I am left wondering how many readers would be willing to participate in
> > such a project?
>
> This is going to be a monumental task, I would imagine.
A task made easier when shared among many. Feel free to contribute!
>
> Flexibility can sometimes be a bit of a curse. ^.^
>
> Will a GUI for complete configuration be available? The user could just
> open the GUI, say "Save Current Theme As mytheme.theme", and then just
> start messing around with components via the GUI: window looks, deleting
> and constructing components, etc. Grabbing keys for key-bindings and all
> that. And the GUI would keep all the mess in its logic, while (trying, at
> least) to allow for fvwm-themes flexibility.
>
Fully functional sets of GUI's are available within fvwm-themes now. All
theme options can not only be selected by GUI's or menus, but also
session managment support allows reloading of complete previously saved
theme preferences. This enables entire theme switching with all options
pre-selected.
> Actually, from what I remember of going through the configuration files,
> that would probably be necessary for "world-wide acceptance" or whatnot.
So.... since we already have that, what else is necessary? ;-)
Alex Wallis
Project Leader for
http://fvwm.themes.org/
email awol_at_dove.net.au
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Received on Sun Feb 25 2001 - 17:36:12 GMT