Re: FVWM: fvwm2 + enlightenment

From: Patrick K. <patrick_at_sid.BoXsoft.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 19:45:44 -0700 (PDT)

Hello, :)

Sometime in the late 1900s Eric Brandwine <eric_at_symphony.mitre.org> wrote:

EB> If you really want to have fun with windows, look into DPS. If you have
EB> Solaris or SGI, or better yet, NeXT, you are set.

EB> Since there is a full PostScript interpreter on board the display server,
EB> anything that you can do in PS you can put on screen, even to animating
EB> the window decorations (Shaped!). Mostly useless when it comes down to
EB> it.

   This sounds neat! If one is willing to give up so much processing
   power to make their display look nice-nice. I do like my workstation
   to look attractive but what is the performance hit one might have
   to endure for such a display?

EB> If you just want the funky decorations, look into ImLib, the image
EB> processing engine that E uses. It is easy enough to create shaped windows
EB> in X. It would be easier to add shaped borders to Fvwm than it would be
EB> to fold the two together.

EB> I am sure that if you get a framework going, folks will want to jump in
EB> and help coding. One big problem you are going to have: Fvwm has only 1
EB> border width, not seperate widths for top/bottom/left/right... Also, the
EB> positions of reparented client windows are hard coded in many places in
EB> the code.

EB> Also, you are going to have to be able to specify each border seperately,
EB> and turn off the top border. Corner handles will have to have independent
EB> sizes.

   Sounds good. :) And this brings up my question from a week or so
   ago about fvwm2's ability to make my windows look like what I had
   when running AfterStep:

      [Title bar with no borders and no handles]
      | |
      | main window (w/no sides!!) |
      | |
      ==--------------------------------------==

           ^^^ bottom border with two handles ( == ) one at each end.

   If the user could specify the widths for top/bottom/left/right borders
   my problems are *almost* solved :) just set:
   
      border width = 5
      top/left/right border width = 0
      # note this leaves the bottom border width = 5

   Only thing remains is the handles which are 'L' shaped in fvwm and I
   am not sure how easy/hard it would be to change their shapes. :)

   Any ideas??


EB> This is not an easy task, and may have to wait for 3.x, but probably well
EB> worth doing.

   I don't know .. if enough people/users think this is a good idea I
   think it might be worth starting implementation. Targeting for
   Fvwm 2.2 or something like that. Or am I too ambitious? *:-}


Patrick K ...
patrick_at_BoXsoft.com (development and consulting)
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Received on Sun Aug 24 1997 - 21:45:33 BST

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