>Well, in *true* pointer focus there is no keyboard traversal at all,
>you have to move the mouse into each field in turn to fill out a form.
We're talking about the focus a windows managed by the window manager, not
fields within a window. Focus within a window is up to the application.
Motif-compliant applications allow keyboard traversal within the window
(usually with the TAB key).
>No, you click on a button (or choose from a menu, or activate a menu
>item with a mnemonic or accelerator) and it opens a dialog that gets
>the focus.
So the application can ask the window manager to change the focus to
another window? Someone else has indicated that they built an app that
did this while the window manager was using pointer-focus policy.
>You then type whatever you want and then close it by
>pressing return, upon which the dialog closes and focus returns to the
>application window that had it before.
This is commonly done using an application-modal keyboard grab so that you
don't have to move the pointer to type in the window. It can also be
done via warping the mouse or popping the dialog box up underneath the
pointer.
>> In the next release, you'll
>> be able to drive the thing almost entirely from the keyboard,
>
>Gee, and to think you could do this with Windows and OS/2 applications
>5 years ago...
> ....
>I see, let's take the only decent UI that the vast majority of X users
>have ever used and ruin it because it doesn't work well with the
>environment that works well with xterm windows.
Lame. First trash _HIS_ app and then say that Netscape is the only decent
UI? (As if Netscape were and has always been a perfect app. Sheesh.)
>users new to computers are much more likely to
>use Netscape than they are to use xterms.
So what? Are you just trying to get fvwm to change the default to reduce
your customer support costs for new users? Give me a break.
Fvwm should come with the
>So you're saying that application vendors have no right to expect any
>sort of standardization of desktop environments?
I don't think a specific focus policy belongs in the standard even if we
could agree on one. If you're using Win95 as an example, why did they
even bother publishing Xmouse if they felt it was a standard that needed
to be enforced?
Jeff
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Received on Wed Oct 23 1996 - 16:35:21 BST