FVWM: Windows-alike override-redirect issue

From: Neil Bird <neil.bird_at_rdel.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:19:28 +0000

  I'm running a 2.3.20 snapshot, Sparc/Solaris 2.6.

  I've just come across an app. that - well, it's nasty. (for reference,
it's Rational 'Rose' developement tool).

  The previous versions of this weren't pleasant, but at least pretended
to be X apps. This latest version basically comes up as if it were a
Windows app. displaying on my X display - the whole window is
override-redirect meaning I have to use the two related BugOpts just to be
able to do anything else (raise/lower, etc.).

  The window itself draws it's one windows-alike title bar, buttons, the
lot. Even iconising it doesn't. It simply shrinks the window it's got (I
seem to recall it uses the *same* window, just icon-sized!).

  Yeugh.

  Anyway, apart from the obvious "what on Earth can I do about it?" (aside
from try in vain to get Rational to change their ways, which I reckon is a
complete non-starter, ...

  Is this a sign of things to come? Looking at it, a couple of libraries
it comes with are things like libshlwapi.so and libadvapi32.so, which I've
not come across before, but seem to be related to similarly named .DLLs
and maybe even WINE stuff.

  Does this portend more & more apps. developed for Windoze, and then
WINEd to UNIX, using a Windows GUI only?

  What makes it worse for me is that the current prevailance here is for
CDE (the Solaris default), which, of course, manages override-redirect
main windows [by the looks of it] and seems to cope. Some people use KDE,
and they seem to be ... accepting it, so I guess it does too. I've not
tried GNOME/Sawfish yet (will in a mo. - but my processor won't take it as
a day-to-day WM), which Sun may put in the next Solaris.

  So I've not got much argument here for the app. to be 'fixed' - they'll
tell me to use CDE like everyone else :-(


  Any thoughts or 'libshlwapi'-related revelations?


  ----

[later]

 - Oh god! It's created a ~/windows as well, with a registry database. I'm
losing the will to live ...

 - And it gets worse; it wants so many colours that, on my 8-bit-deep
display, it uses it's own colourmap, and sets it to be that initially
(messing the other apps.' colours). But since FVWM can't 'see' it's
window, it seems to not that that the colourmap's different, and I have to
resort to running the pointer over 'xcolor' to change the installed
colourmap.

 - And stranger. CDE creates the apps. windows *without* override-redirect
set!! Is that a known 'feature' of CDE????

 - GNOME/Sawfish suffers the same problem [less the colourmap thing, which
it sorts out when I click on a window]. It's slightly worse, since it
doesn't appear to have the BugOpt-option equivalents. Or it might if I
could be bothered to learn Lisp :-/

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